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Terkдlь: 30 Apr 2003 23:36
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  Qaldэrdэ: 20 Цkt 2004 05:52    Baюlэq: Tatar istilдxдte / Aldaw sьzlдrne almaюtэru  

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Hдr Tatar bu зuqэnmэю sьzlдrne/дytemnдrne almaюtэrэrрa tieю: 
(mдsдlдn kirilisa sьzen qullanmasqa, hдrзaq urэsдlif дytдse) 

kirilitsa –› urэsдlif 
Russia –› Urэsia 
Latнn xдreflдrgд kьзь –› Latнnдlifne/Tьrkiдlifne qaytaru/torрэzu
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  Qaldэrdэ: 21 Цkt 2004 13:14    Baюlэq:  

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Latнn xдreflдrgд kьзь –› Latнnдlifne/Tьrkiдlifne qaytaru/torрэzu - bolay itЬ dЦrЦs tЬgl, ЗЦnki: 
1. "qaytaru/torрэzu" - xata - "Latнn xдreflдr" - alar bit iskilдri("kitkдn"nдre, "yatqan"nari) tьgl, bьtдni. 
2. "Latнn xдreflдrgд kьзь" - monda brnindi dД xata yuq. 
 
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Terkдlь: 30 Apr 2003 23:36
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  Qaldэrdэ: 22 Цkt 2004 21:42    Baюlэq:  

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bдy, Latнnдlifne kiс qullanudan “tцюergдnnдr” iз. Юuсa kьrд “torрэzu” sьzen дytдlдr dд, qanun da nдq юulay atala: «Latнn дlifbasэn torрэzu». Дmma ni дytmдkзe idem, “kьзь” kileюmi, зцnki ber mдrtдbд kьзkдnbez iз, dimдk xдzer qaytabэz inde. 

Latнnдlifle kitaplar dцnya bastэrэlрan ide, alar uqэlрannar, ilbasar xдrefendд kitaplar haman da юul sanрa citmдgдnnдr, Tatarlar urэsдlifle kitaplarnэ uqэmнlar diдrlek, urэsдlif ьz maqsatэna ireюkдn, Tatarlar ana telen onэtqannar.
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  Qaldэrdэ: 23 Цkt 2004 12:10    Baюlэq:  

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ber mдrtдbд kьзkдnbez iз, dimдk xдzer qaytabэz inde 
kiliЮДm. 

latinga qaytu; 
tatar alfavitinin latinliРin[i] [qullaniliЮqa, РДmДlgД] qaytaru (?). 

[Monda Юaqmaqli ЗДyДlДr iЗindД - mДcbЬri bulmaРan elementlar (ДybrlДr, ЦLЦЮLДr), 
[microsoft] qbasic[programmasi]niС yДrdДm [tekst] indaРi kibik, 
sЬz uСayndan, tatar tili strukturasiniС br 'plЬs'i ('есть свои плюсы и минусы' digДn РibarДdДn ) bu] 
 
Цskд men  
 
 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 23 Цkt 2004 12:12    Baюlэq:  

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РДmДldДgi tatar alfavitiniС latinliРin[i] qaytaru. 
 
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al Beri



Terkдlь: 30 Apr 2003 23:36
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  Qaldэrdэ: 23 Цkt 2004 17:35    Baюlэq:  

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«Latнn дlifbasэn qaytaru» digдndд, дlbдttд «рдmдlgд qaytaru» aсlarрa kirдk. 

s.u. [Ctrl] tцymдsen basqaз, xдrefne [Shift] ilд basarрa kirдk tьgel 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 25 Цkt 2004 08:42    Baюlэq:  

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"plus"->faydali yaq. 
gibara->дytm(поговорка)--"дytm" digдndдgi "m" quюmзasi 'portsia'ni aСlatqanga kurд-->'дytmд' yдki 'дytki'. 

"m" quюmзasiniС 'portsia'ni aСlatuwina misallar(dalillar): 
tilim (ipi tilimi), adim(шаг), qabim, qabimliq, yotm(br yotm su), зaqirim(qзqrp зaqru yraqligi, yaqnзa kilometr), talim("talimsiz" digдndagi). 

Xarfni zur itp yaza ham tekstnin in axrina ostap bara: Linux, Opera. Klassnin administratorindan soriysi bulr bu mas`alani. 

'istilдxдt' nдrsд digдn sьz? 
 
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Юamil
Эdдrдзe


Terkдlь: 01 May 2003 09:49
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  Qaldэrdэ: 25 Цkt 2004 22:33    Baюlэq:  

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istilдxдt - tцюenздlдr cнэntэрэ 

дytem dд - дytьneс ber kisдge, tьgelme? 
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Nдrsд sine alрa alэp bara? 
Uylap qara, uylap qara (Э tuрa-an tel!) 
Nдrsд bezgд yдrdдm itд? Д? 
(Э_ ma~matu~ur tel) 

© Barda RAP cэrзэlarэ 
 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 29 Цkt 2004 10:58    Baюlэq:  

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+oym, birm, bulm. 

aytu ul uzi da ayrm bir soylaw [kisagi] tuglmi son? 
'soylam' digan {tl blimi termini} suz da bar bit ali. 
(lingvistika) tl blmi galimnari soylaw bramlklari arasindan frazeologizm, maqal, aytmlarni ayrp qaray.(bramlk-matematika, fizika termini) 

'm' qusmcasinin 'portsia'ni anlatqanligini dalillagan iydim, 
bu magna bulmagan ocraqlarni qarap utam: 
soylam, blm, krm, utmli, suusm, usmlk, alm, ulm, ulm-kitm, ?salm(sal- suzndan?), юtm, utrm. 
bolar arasndan: 
yana, yasalma rawsta barlqqa kil[trl]gan("yasalgan", "uylap cgarlgan") suzlar: 
(albatta, "yasalmalilq" ta ul cagstrmaca narsa) 
utrm(ximiya termini), soylam (tl blimi termini), krm(ekonomika(iqtisad fani) termini), utmli(ekonomika(iqtisad fani) termini, gacit suzi), suusm (biologiya termini), usmlk (biologiya termini), ?alm(isul), ?salm(sal- suzndan?)(ekonomika(iqtisad fani) termini). 
'w' qusmcasinin magnasina yaqnlari: 
ulm, юtm. 
'q|k' qusmcasinin magnasina yaqnlari: 
blm, suusm, usmlk, krm, юtm, utrm. 
'w' qusmcasininin "'w' qusmcasi" ikanlgini ham {'protsess, xarakat' magnasi}li ikanligini dalillaw: yцr[ы]w, aюaw, bar[ы]w, tцz[ы]w, saylaw, uqыw, yat[ы]w, bul[ы]w, bьl[ы]w. 
'q|k' qusmcasinin "'q|k' qusmcasi" ikanlgini ham {'xarakatnin rezultatindagi aybr(юay, obyekt, предмет)' magnasi}li ikanligini dalillaw: зirik, wat[ы]q, qaqir[ы]q, tokir[ы]k, bьl[ы]k, ьl[ы]k, kis[ы]k, qat[ы]q. bu qusmca 'a' blan btkan figllarga yalganmay[ bugay]. 
Aзю!: 
'm' qusmcasinin magnasi 'q|k' qusmcasinin magnasina yaqn ocraqlarda (blm, suusm, usmlk, krm, юtm, utrm) 'm' qusmcasinin magnasi - 'xarakatnin barюindagi, agюindagi, dawamindagi aybr(юay, obyekt, предмет)', ham bu ocraqlarda gna tugl, bar[lq|ca] ocraqlarda da! 
 
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Terkдlь: 24 Sen 2003 12:46
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Qaydan: Zьrih / Эsviзre
  Qaldэrdэ: 29 Цkt 2004 13:16    Baюlэq:  

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istilдxдt - tцюenздlдr cнэntэрэ 
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Eski (iske) Tьrkзe istilвhat (berence a ince) Farsзadan kilgen sьz. Эngilizce Terminology, compilation of terms. Almanca : Fachausdrьcke, Terminologie 

Yeni (yana) Tьrkзe : Terimler, (terminoloji sьzь de bar Fransэzca’dan) 

Missal: 
Edebiyat Terimleri / Istэlahat-э Edebiyye 
 
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Terkдlь: 30 Apr 2003 23:36
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  Qaldэrdэ: 29 Цkt 2004 20:56    Baюlэq:  

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min «sцylдm» sьzen «phrase, sentence» mдрnдsendд qullandэm. 
en:national anthem – tt:milli дytem 

-w quюэmtasэ ilд ber sьzdд qнэnlэq, niзek aсlarрa belmim: 
awзэ - monda [w] awazэ basэmsэz, au (salu/kilь) sьzendд isд юul uq awaz basэm astэnda. nindi xдref quyasэ mikдn? 

s.u. «Bцyek Watan Suрэюэ» urэnэna Tatarlar «2. Dцnyasuрэю» дytergд tieюlдr minemзд, suрэюnэ “watan” ataw цзen ul Эdel-Uralрa citmдgдn ide.
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  Qaldэrdэ: 30 Цkt 2004 10:48    Baюlэq:  

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tд:k, minm songi yazmamga tozatuwlar, redaktsia kirak. 
1. bismilla:hirraxma:nirraxi:m [basta ham axrda]; allah(xoday, tanri, arraxman, h.b. ismlari bar)tan baska ilaha yuq. 
suz unayndan, monda "a:" ozin "a"ni bildira, ingliz tilini oyranganda qullanila torgan transkriptsia kbk. 
suz unayndan, ul transkriptsia universal bugay, boton tllar ham awazlar ocon da tamgalar bar bugay anda, 
ham ul internatsional tarnskriptsia ocon qabul itlgan standart ta bugay ali. 
anda, misal ocon ayta alam, tatar tilindagi "ы" awazimi, sunn nickasimi 
kirillitsada "д"ni tamgalay torgan xarf(tamga, bilgi) blan tamgalana:"international [yaqnca:]['intыr'nЭ:jюыnыl]". 
2. bik zur xata kitkan (harxalda minm ocon "bik zur", oyat, xurlq), 
amma ul inertsia buynca sulay yazp quyldi: 
"yцr[ы]w" tugl, [a] "yцrыw", yagni "yцrы+w", dalil: 
yцrыy - asay, uqiy, yaramay, ciriy kbk, 
yagni, "yцra" tugl. (amma dardmandnn br sigrnda anday variant ta bar). 
ham buw suznin tamirini [yalgs] "yцr-" diyp kursatuw qaybr darsliklarda da bar bugay ali. 
(yagni, doroso "yцr-" tugl, a "yцrц-" yaki "yцrы-"). 
suz unayndan, suzlklarda sunnin ocon da figllarni boyrq (?yunalsnda?) xalnda, rawsnda kursatrga kirak. 
 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 30 Цkt 2004 11:04    Baюlэq:  

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[alla indi cnlap soriysin?] 
'aw' - охота, "ism"(существиткльное, ?none?), 
'aw-' - urscaga tarcma itsan, [balansni yugaltp,] awirlq uzaginin artq yugari buluwi sabapli, borlp, awrlq koco ta'sirnda, "vertikal" xaldan "horizontal" xalga kucu, "figl"(глагол, verb). 
'aw-' + 'w' = 'aw[ы]w'. 
('sal-' + 'w' = 'sal[ы]w', 'kil-' + 'w' = 'kil[ы]w', 
(basqortlar "килеw" diyp yazalarmi ali, alarninqi doros')). 
 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 30 Цkt 2004 13:16    Baюlэq:  

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tagn bik zur aybr yazpcibarmakci idm, amma server neotvecayet buldi ham minm klassta utru waqtm ciktan cqti(limit), min yazmamni diketaga yazdrgan idm. a xazr ul anda yuq ikan, yazlmagan - linux xatasimi son buw. 
 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 30 Цkt 2004 13:45    Baюlэq:  

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"aq" qusmcasi 'gadiy qoral' magnasinda: 
korak ('kora-' + 'ak'), taraq, tayaq, trak. 
'kora-' + 'ak', 'tara-' + 'aq', 'taya-' + 'aq', 'tra-' + 'ak'. [mi, alla alay tuglmi.] 
amma buw magna yuq ocraqlar: 
?yorak ('yoro-' + 'ak' => 'yorak')?, ?bulak ('bul-' + 'ak')?, sanaq('sana-' + 'aq')(yana suz). 

siznin "Waqэt quюaрэ: GMT +3" digandagi 'quюaq' doros tugl. 
 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 30 Цkt 2004 13:56    Baюlэq:  

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29 Цkt 2004 10:58 qaldэrgan yazmamni min indi 27 Цkt 2004 ta uk yazgan idm, 
amma min an(ul, ol, on, un)ni yugalttim, 
klassnin yabluw waqti citkanga kura barlq sanaqlardagi bar programlar br yuli sundrldi (linux yardamnda sulay momkin), 
min kotmaganda (conki iski linux bulgan caqta aldan kisatu cibarla idi). 
ul yazmada "Aзю!:" yuq idi, amma basqa narsalar bar idi, alarni da yazasi bulr. 
ham bu kon da bik zur kulamli yazmadagi yugalgan narsalarni da yazasi bulr. 
 
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aw – boyэrэq fiрel 
awu – рдmдl iseme, monda u xдrefe basэm astэnda 
awuзэ – рдmдl itьзe 

Bдlki «awзэ» ul «awuзэ»nэс qэsqarэlрan nдrsдse genд der. 

«waqэt quюaрэ» diьne dцres tьgel digдз, dцresen tдqdim it 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 06 Nцy 2004 17:49    Baюlэq:  

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«respublika» sьzen qullanmasqa kirдk, юoсрэ arada anэс mдрnдse ьzgдrelde, ul xдzer «guvernэ» sьze urэnэna юul uq mдрnдdд qullanэla baюladэ: 

«Bezneс respublikada» –› «Bezneс Tatarstanda/Bezneс cцmhьriдttд» дytь dцresrдk bulэrdэr.
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  Qaldэrdэ: 09 Nцy 2004 13:38    Baюlэq:  

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{figil 'aw'} bilan {ism 'aw'} - omonimnar. {ism 'awuw'} bilan {ism 'aw'} - ikisi iki aybr, 'awuw' iki morfemadan tora, qatlawli tozoloSli. 

quSqi, quSm, ('quSmca' bilan 'quSmta' qullanilalar indi), ?quSma?. 
 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 10 Nцy 2004 11:38    Baюlэq:  

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tagn 'Ostama'. 

'ilaha' tugl, 'ilahы'. 
 
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Soсрэ xдbдrlдrne kьrsдt: bцtenesen1 kцnlek1 atnalэq2 atnalэq1 aylэq3 aylэq6 aylэq1 yэllэq iskesennдn baюlapyaсasэnnan baюlap  
 
       Bдxдslдr -> Tatar poзmaрэ Waqэt quюaрэ: GMT +3
Bitkд 1, 2  Kilдse  
1. bit (barэsэ: 2) 

 
 
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Yaсa cep aзalasэс
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Tatar tele turэnda sдxifд  YBS   Ezlдw   Soсрэlar   Дрzдlдr   Tцrkemnдr   Terkдlь  
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Bitkд Uzрan  1, 2  
       Bдxдslдr -> Tatar poзmaрэ 
Uzрan cep :: Kilдse cep   
Yazрan Xдbдr 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 10 Dek 2004 11:34    Baюlэq:  

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min quSmcalar turnda Foat Ganiyev-nN br kitabini uqGac GAcAblanp qalGan iydim. (Bдxдslдr -> Tatar poзmaрэ -> Tel wд tormэю :10 Dek 2004 11:30- tan alp quydm buw yazuwni monda, 11111 - ul da min) - 5 yl ilk indi min ul kitapni uqidim. cOnki min tatar tili buynca kitaplarni uqiy, qzqsna baSlaGan iydim ul caqta. min Aydar XalimnN br kitabndagi urs tlndagi tatar suzlarini kurgac qzqsnp kittim buGay. ham min tatar tli buynca kitaplarni uqganda fikrlarmni ontmas Ocn yazp ta bardim. 
 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 26 Рнn 2005 14:11    Baюlэq:  

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> ..29 Цkt 2004 10:58 .. xarakatnin rezultatindagi aybr 
azagndagi, xarakat tamamlangandan soN 

+kiym 
 
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  Qaldэrdэ: 26 Рнn 2005 14:48    Baюlэq:  

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>..Bдxдslдr -> Рцmьmi bдxдs.. 
>..“Latнnдlif mдs'дlдse”.. 
>..26 Рнn 2005 14:40.. 
>..buw fikrni Abrar Karimullin'nN br kitab'n'da isbat'la'gan iy'di (mAqAlA ciy'n'tig'i). 
> 
>[Sulay uq] nicka "suz'q" awaz'lar'ni zur xarf bilan yaz'uw'ni da min br tatar til'i bilan SOGl'la'n'uw'ci "kompyutr'SCik"lar'dan kur'di'm. >bugay. 
gomum'an, blm'nar'ni, aC'S'lar'ni "min'nN'ki" diy'p sana'ysi tugl'dr ol. 
 
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Soсрэ xдbдrlдrne kьrsдt: bцtenesen1 kцnlek1 atnalэq2 atnalэq1 aylэq3 aylэq6 aylэq1 yэllэq iskesennдn baюlapyaсasэnnan baюlap  
 
       Bдxдslдr -> Tatar poзmaрэ Waqэt quюaрэ: GMT +3
Bitkд Uzрan  1, 2  
2. bit (barэsэ: 2) 

 
 
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"toyilik" diyp anlasan - ul "toyolgan aybir" diygan suz.